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KID ROCK
THE UNFORGIVEN
interview by Meshack Blaq
photos by Tiger-Bomb

How many of you kiddies heard of Kid Rock. After the spattering of Love he's gotten from MTV in so many forms, the Kid is finally making his impression felt. Rumor has it that he and Slim Shady used to do live shows together in the Detroit area. But if one digs a little deeper in the the Kid's file, they'll find that he's been creatin' music for the last ten years. And yes, this is his fourth album... But he ain't mad.
KRONICK:
You apologized onstage last night for gettin' too wasted. Then you said, "Fuck it! That's normal."
KID ROCK:
Usually I don't get THAT wasted. I mean, I'll like drink a bottle of wine or somethin; a bottle of booze before a show an' chill out. You know, sometimmes I don't. It's not like an everyday thing. But last night I got into a lttle drinking contest with Edwin McCain and I ended up winnin'. But I was WASTED!!!
KRONICK:
I think the live Kid Rock show makes a grand statement a lot bigger than maybe on the CD. How do you feel about what goes into your live performance. Especially with the band as tight as it is rockin' the instruments?
KID ROCK:
What goes into it? Nothin' really, just hard work tryin' to make somethin' that's entertaining and at the same time incredible. You know, it's straight talent from everybody in the band.
KRONICK:
Personally, you won me over last night even when you were playin' stuff that maybe I don't listen to on a radio basis. For example, the Marshall Tucker tune. A little of what I would consider Country Western if I'm not mistaken?
KID ROCK:
Southern Rock.
KRONICK:
Even when you got down and scratched into the metal flavor. Prior to me comin' and checkin' you out last night, my familiarity with the Book of Kid Rock comes out of the Grand Royal interview that pretty much broke everything down. And then back in the day from a video you had where you're runnin' thru some cornfields.
KID ROCK:
Back From The Dead! You saw that?
KRONICK:
I had a video show called Kronick where we aired that video on one of the first shows. I was like, "Who is this guy Kid Rock?"
KID ROCK:
$1,500.00 Bucks to do that video.
KRONICK:
So for those that don't know, who is this Kid Rock? The Underground Rock Star in Hip Hop?!
KID ROCK:
I'm just a Devil Without A Cause; whiteboy who doesn't give a fuck/ Paid so many dues I went bankrupt/ Been shinin' like a diamond, gettin' passed as coal. You know? I'm just a muthafuckin' musician. I'm pretty talented at what I do. I can sing, rock the turntables, play guitars, drums, and program fuckin' beats for days with the best of `em. And I've been persistent with everything I do since day one. I've never been no sellout and I've never said shit that I couldn't back up. Everything I said was Real; never faked the Funk.
KRONICK:
I notice you played a little bit of every instrument onstage last night. That kinda blew me away on some compositional shit. Do you compose all your tunes?
KID ROCK:
Yep, from scratch! Sometimes it's like anything else. I was influenced by the things you hear around you. So it's all types of influences in every song. You'll hear a little Beasties in one song, you'll hear a little Sugar Hill Gang in another song, Alice In Chains in one song, you know? I'm easily influenced and a sucka for a melody. And I don't try to make any bones about it. I'm influenced by the most simplest shit. I'm influenced by MTV, fuckin' Radio, fuckin' kids comin' up to me after a show. I don't really go searchin' for anything deep. I don't know anything about some crazy Latin cool groove record down there cause I just don't look for it. I just soak up what's goin' on around me and let pour out.
KRONICK:
When I read the Grand Royal interview, you made light of the fact that you didn't want those guys to blow you up too much at the time because in the area you're from (near Detroit) you're the shits!
KID ROCK:
Yea, in Romeo Michigan we're thirty miles of cowpoke town north of Detroit.
KRONICK:
Word on the street is over there that you can sell out a 3,000 seat arena weeks in advance!
KID ROCK:
I just did it!
KRONICK:
So what's the situation now with blowin' yourself up? I mean, we're sittin' outside on Sunset smokin' a blunt accross the street from Big Willie Atlantic Records. For those that have known of Kid Rock, they want to know how come it seems like 10 years after the fact that you're finally getting this sudden notoriety accross the board?
KID ROCK:
Fuck Dude, I still don't know... I have no idea. (laughs) Maybe times came back around and caught up with me. Maybe I caught up with time. I don't know... I have no idea. (laughing again) I just been persistent with what I do and I've always done it no matter what happenned. Whether I've done Rappin' or DJin', or this style I do now; if any thing should happen, I always know I'll be able to get my shit out in the streets. I ain't scared to go with anybody anyday if they think they can do it, just give it a try. I like competition and I like talent and I think competition breeds talent. So a good answer to that is I have no idea. All I know is I've been consistent at what I've done and never gave up.
KRONICK:
I wanna get your reactions or responses to certain topics and subjects. The first would be D-Town or Detroit?
KID ROCK:
My hometown. It's like I always say; cause I don't wanna come off like I'm some kid that was raised hard in Detroit or somethin'. I make no bones about that; I was raised middle class and my family had money. I had shoes on my feet an' a roof over my head. I had a car when I was 16 and I'm not fuckin' embarrased to say that. That's how I grew up. That's what my parents did. That's how I lived. BUT, I spent a lot of time in the basements of Mt. Clements Michigan and that's where I got my name- the King of Base. And when I'm out here Nationally I represent Detroit Michigan.
KRONICK:
Your first car was it AmeriKKKan made?
KID ROCK:
Hell yea! My Dad was at Ford Man! I was raised in the Auto industry in Detroit.
KRONICK:
What about Kiss?
KID ROCK:
Cool.
KRONICK:
Any major influence growin' up with that whole Detroit City Rockers thing?
KID ROCK:
I remember seein' the records and all in my older sisters' collection. But I didn't know but maybe one of their songs until a couple of years ago when they made a comeback. I even say sometimes, "I'm from Detroit Rock City" but I couldn't even tell you the words to any of their songs!
KRONICK:
The Beastie Boys?
KID ROCK:
Great. Very fortunate. I think they were Very, VERY fortunate to be young and surrounded by people like Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin during the Heyday of Run DMC, Public Enemy and things like that. Which is never gonna happen again in our lifetime. And I think they've represented everything they've done well and they've been a major influence on me. I'm not really into the political shit they into now...
KRONICK:
I'd really like to say vise-versa too! You've probably been a Great influence on them!! That's why I'm askin' these questions. Next up, Vanilla Ice?
KID ROCK:
Well I knew that one was inevitable! He's got an ass kickin' comin' on site. I'm a beat that fuckin' kid silly when I see him! I heard he's been workin' out and if he can beat me down, so be it. Fuck that Kid, Man!! That Fucker embarrassed like, a whole generation of white kids.
KRONICK:
I had to ask.
KID ROCK:
Everybody does! Not one interview has gone by in 10 years where that hasn't came up. Not ONE interview in 10 years; that comes up in EVERY one of `em!! That's why that mutherfucker's gettin' an ass-whuppin'. So from now on when they come with those questions- The next time you ask that question, it'll be like, "Yo Man, why'd you beat up Vanilla Ice?" Rather than askin' me what I think of him. From 1999 on, that'll be the new question for Kid Rock: Why'd you fuckin' lunge at Vanilla Ice? If they're gonna bring it up, they might as well bring it up on my terms.
KRONICK:
First time I saw the Bullgod video, I asked myself if this mutherfucker the ill-legitmate lost stepson of Ozzie Osbourne, or WHAT!?! What are your thoughts on Ozzie?
KID ROCK:
I could only pray and hope to be, Man! I Love the Ozz, You know? He's a Legend! Fucker's got so much Soul in his voice when he sings. I know he sings hard metal and all that, but the guy's got a lotta Soul in his voice. I Love him. Black Sabbath too! Where I came from, you couldn't grow up there without bein' into that shit. They'd toss your ass outta town!
KRONICK:
I was really shocked and surprised and even pleaeed last night when you started playin' that Southern Rock music and then Edwin came out and sang with you (with a bottle of Jim Beam in his hand, no doubt)...
KID ROCK:
He was all outta key!
KRONICK:
I thought, "This is classic right here!" So I wanted to ask how much of an influence did that type of music have on you? Cause you told the crowd, "I don't give a fuck what you guys think. I'ma play what makes me feel good." And that to me earned you alot of respect as an artist: that fuck the world attitude as long as it makes you feel good.
KID ROCK:
I added that song two nights ago. We learned how to play it two shows ago. I put the record on and told the band, "C'mon, let's play this song tonight. We gotta learn it." It's just three chords to the song so we all learned it quick and started playin' it. And all that was an influence on me; that type of music like Marshall Tucker, Lynrd Skynrd, Hank Williams Jr.- I Love it, Man! It reminds me alot of Hip Hop the way that whole click was. Even the Country thing- it was the only other music that's kinda like that. Where it's like community; and it's weird and kinda fucked up. But I'll be Real about it- I went to every fuckin' Hip Hop show that came to Detroit from 1984 up. The first time Run DMC came before their album was out, all the Fresh Fests, and all the Def Jam Tours, all the Street Jamatrons- everything that came thru. I was at every one of those shows. I was involved with everything that went on with Hip Hop from the stars, to the show to everything. And I've fuckin' really never felt like I shoulda been somewhere more than when I went to that Hank Williams Jr. show. I don't know if that's cause of bein' white or the people that was around. I don't know what it is but that was the feeling I got. It's fucked up because I always loved that music and was raised around it, but I mean, my whole life was Hip Hop. There isn't anything Old School Hip Hop that we couldn't talk about.
KRONICK:
Have you ever had to deal with... OK, I'm preface this with my experience from before I came to the show last night. I was catchin' feelin's as to whether or not I wanted to come to the show. I wrote that review on your album back there. So I knew I had to talk to you today and I thought it would be unfair for me to not go see you live. So when I got there the first thought was, "Damn, there's a lotta white people here" That's why I was feelin' edgy to begin with. And I saw a few Brothas and kinda loosened up. The when you started playin' the Southern Rock, I felt a warm accepting vibe that wasn't on no segregated shit where Niggaz get beatdown. Then when you went into the Metal shit I was amazed! So after that, I was wonderin' if you had to deal with any Hating going on from your own kind for being white and into Hip Hop? You know, Wigger, Trailer Park Trash and the like?
KID ROCK:
Totally! My parents used to ask me all the time, "Why the fuck you goin' down to DJ parties for them Niggers?" Flat out! They'd say shit like, "You can go DJ a wedding and make $300 dollars, but you'd rather run down there with them Niggers and play for $50 dollars and drink 40's all night." And they weren't that hardcore about us. I don't wanna make `em out to be big Racial people. It wasn't that bad. It was more like I was truckin' outta there to go on some pipe-dream to do somethin' I loved and they couldn't understand. But truckin' I had to deal with a lotta that shit. Especially, even the whole Wigger thing. There was a point in my like when I had a Troop suit. I had a little flatop goin'. Shit like that. I thought I was doin' it! But I ain't no fuckin' Front!! 90% of the other white kids went thru that too, Man! It's just somethin' we all just kinda went thru. We always go thru somethin', especially white kids. White kids ALWAYS go thru somethin'. Like those teenage years are an identity thing.They all get into different things and I don't know why it is, but it's so much more exaggerated about who you are and where you are. That was the thing at the time. Like fuckin' Michael Jackson, I tried to moonwalk too! Just like every other motherfucker. Don't here and lie about it! So yea, I took a lot of shit!
KRONICK:
So on Devil Without A Cause it seems like you're almost entertaining the concept of bein' the Devil of Hop Hop, so to speak. Or am I gettin this wrong?
KID ROCK:
I like to use terms backwards that people throw out. I like when the Black groups and the Black Hip Hoppers always call the white dude Devil. Somethin' like that. Like I think it's kinda hot. I know they're not talkin' to me specifically; they're talkin' about my Dad! (we laugh together) But at the same time, I always try to find somethin' good in people. But I mean with that it was just like, Yea! It's Devil as in Devil Without A Cause. It just means whiteboy that doesn't giv a Fuck. I'm not mad that you wrote that article. I don't give a fuck if I get accepted by your paper, or the Hip Hop community, or the Country community, or the Southern Rock community, or the Baptist, the Catholic, fuckin' everybody- I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, Man!!! I make music that I think sounds good and I've been pretty successful at it. There's a lotta kids that like it and that's why I keep makin' it. And I love to do it.
KRONICK:
Malcolm X & Motown is Detroit for Black Americans.
KID ROCK:
Did you know Detroit is the most segregated city in the world?
KRONICK:
Did those activities in D-Town have any influnce on you?
KID ROCK:
From bein' in Hip Hop at an early age I was exposed to all that stuff. I spent a few of my Summers kicked out of the house livin' at Mt. Clemens. It would usually be for 2-3 months sometimes. So I got exposed to alot of that stuff. You know, rather than drink a Bud, I'd drink a Colt .45 or a fuckin' Schlitz. Same thing, instead of watchin' Jerry Lee Lewis, I was watchin' Eddie Murphy allofasudden.
KRONICK:
Detroit is probably most known in the world right now for it's Dance/Techno music.
KID ROCK:
Yea, I started out with a lot of those guys. I used to go to Warren Adkins house when I was little to make beats and stuff. Derrick May and Jeff Mills and all those guys made early Techno records that I Love. All the Technicolor stuff and Mertoplex records are favorites of mine.
KRONICK:
What about Insane Clown Posse and Slim Shady? I even heard that you guys used to do shows together.
KID ROCK:
I liked them kids when I first met `em. The Clowns are a couple of kids from around the area. Kinda dirty, ugly lookin' kids that really wanted to work hard to do somethin', so I thought I'd help `em out. Then they even paid me some money to rap on one of their songs. I looked at it like I'm helpin' `em out. It was kinda stupid. I don't dig their music, I don't dig what they're talkin' about, and I can't feel it- it's not Real. Slim Shady is cool though.
KRONICK:
My last question would be regarding rumors. Folks out there say people like Kid Rock who are in that Rock & Roll lifestyle are using drugs, pumping bitches all the time, and everyday is Saturday! How much truth is there to that statement?
KID ROCK:
There's a lot of truth to it. But what people fail to talk about is what I tell everybody. Just like I'm tellin' you- when I come out there and I say, "I'm stone pimpin' the Nation/ runnin' from Frisco to Maine, China to L. A. the hard way/ 8 to 80, dumb cripple & crazy" and all that shit? "In the end, let's go fuckin' snort lines all nite and drink 40's", Yea I do that! But that's on the road. This is where I am. I'm allotted to do that. Back home I have a 5 year old boy that I have custody of who I been raisin' for 5 years. So when I'm home, it's up at 8:30. Put my kid in the bathtub, get him his waffles he's bitchin' about. Then he wants to play a couple of games of Nintendo, take him to school. Handle my business while he's at school, go to the park, work on music, make some phone calls. Fix some dinner for him, you know? Sit down, maybe go outside and ride the bike around or somethin'. Then stay up `til 11 workin' on music, and go to bed. And that's what I do when I'm at home. So I'm not a big fuckin' leader of morals or of doin' anything positive. But if there's one thing that's positive and Real, that's all REAL right there. That's a part of me and that's what I do. And I like kids to know that so when they come to the show, they gonna se a Pimpin' Ass Muthafucka! That's probably what I'ma be at the show. But understand- you never get to se me wipin' my kid's ass when he has diharrea or somethin'. And I want kids to know that I do that, and that is part of me too! I don't have a lot of positive messages in my songs, but I don't live wrong to hurt people.



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